Green Champion Speed Challenge (F2P)

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Green Champion Speed Challenge (F2P)

Postby sccook on Sat Jan 31, 2009 9:00 am

Here's a simple concept for a challenge:
- Design a Green Champion for each of the 21 free levels (no hacks allowed)
- Total your time for all 21 levels
- Lowest cumulative time wins the challenge

Challenge Procedure
- Sign in on this thread if you are interested in participating. (This will let me know if there is any interest and will keep the thread up towards the top of the forum.)
- Post any questions that you might have when you sign in. I want to get any issues ironed out as quickly as possible.
- Submit your solutions to me before midnight on Sunday, Feb 8. (I'm assuming that the times for posts and PMs are the same world-wide.)
- Use the following format for submitting your solutions:
Level No - Level Abbreviation - Ticks - URL
Example:
2-RU-91-http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=5791015

NOTE: The submittal format is important because I will copy the submitted solutions into a spread sheet to check the total times and to sort all solutions to get the fastest one for each level.

Key Definitions/Rules
- "Green" means no powered wheels (yellow or pink/purple).
- "Champion" means that the target is permanently parked in the goal.
- "In the goal" does not include the dark border surrounding the goal area. If the target overlaps this dark border, then you will not get the victory screen which means that you didn't reach the goal. See this illustration if I have confused you:
http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=5790813
- The small circles used to attach rods to the target will not be used to determine if the target is permanently in the goal. Let me see the pink from the goal area around the target and there shouldn't be any reason for disputes.
- As illustrated in http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=5791015, sometimes the target will momentarily bounce out of the goal before coming to rest completetly inside the goal. This is still an acceptable solution.
- There is no limit on the number of entrants. However, your cumulative time will need to be less than 2000 ticks to have any chance of winning. My guess is that the winner will be in the 1500 tick range.

Other Items of Interest
- The problem of inconsistent replays will have to be worked out on a case-by-case basis. If we can't get several people to see the same thing, we may have to go with posting screen shots of your screen. (Note that there are several free photo-hosting websites available on the 'Net.)
- Glitches - Normally they are outlawed to prevent "explosive" solutions. Since I have never seen an explosive glitch on a green solution, I am not going to worry about glitches or what constitutes a glitch. Chain breaks, water rods passing through the environment, wooden rods passing through each other, etc are all allowed. Frankly, I've had glitches hurt me more than they have ever helped me.
- Changing the level by hacks or by the black-hole glitch is not allowed.
- I will verify all the solutions of the winning entry and the fastest entry for each level. I should have the overall winner and the fastest levels posted Monday night (US eastern standard time).
- If you are stuck on a level, check out the "Simplest Badge Records" thread pinned at the top of the forum for some suggested areas to start. This thread includes links to some other threads of interest as well. I am pointing these threads out to make sure that everyone knows about them.
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Re: Green Champion Speed Challenge (F2P)

Postby sccook on Sat Jan 31, 2009 9:02 am

Congratulations to Skips who won with a total time of 1496 ticks (beating me by nearly 200 ticks). We didn't always make original designs. In many instances, the designs were tweaks to
Fastest Green: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=2763
Simplest Badge Records: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1164

There are three key discoveries that help make green solutions fast. I wish that I knew who to credit for these:
- Bundling wooden rods in a single line to provide the necessary power without taking up much construction room
- Gravity catapult (Example- http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=5750830)
- Ball Launcher (Example - http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=5792864)

Here are the fastest levels submitted for the competition.

Roll Away-20-Skips
http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=5792864

Reach Up-26-sccook
http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=5782760

Mind The Gap-35-sccook
http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=5739332

JY- 61- sccook
http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=5719142

The Wall- 43-sccook
http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=5714077

On a Roll-42- Skips
http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=5792770

Full Up-53-Skips
http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=5792910

Higher- 16-sccook
http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=5745807

Around the Bend-43-Skips
http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=5793077

Up The Hump- 62- sccook/Skips
http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=5891363

Misson to Mars-24-Skips
http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=5793527

Up the Stairs-41-Skips
http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=5793634

Big Ball-36-sccook
http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=5625093

4 Balls-186-sccook
http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=5768275

Down Under-106-Skips
http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=5794676

Awash-68-sccook
http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=5750830

Handling-30-Skips
http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=5795349

Tube-75-greentime et.al.
http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=5795545

Back & Forth-243-sccook
http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=5760313

Unpossible-119-Skips
http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=5796277

U-Turn-41-Skips
http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=5795857
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Re: Green Champion Speed Challenge (F2P)

Postby Skips on Sat Jan 31, 2009 9:15 am

Wouldn't it be easier to make this a teamwork to get the minimum? People probably won't want to solve all 21 levels.
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Re: Green Champion Speed Challenge (F2P)

Postby sccook on Sat Jan 31, 2009 9:31 am

Skips wrote:Wouldn't it be easier to make this a teamwork to get the minimum? People probably won't want to solve all 21 levels.


Possibly....but if you don't want to work on a given level, you don't have to. Just use one of the green champions from any of several different threads.

For those that prefer to tweak other people's solutions; they will get their chance after the challenge is completed.
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Re: Green Champion Speed Challenge (F2P)

Postby Skips on Sat Jan 31, 2009 1:43 pm

Are we allowed multiple submissions? And how do we do the abbreviations? Is it the two main letters? E.g, is Mind the Gap: MG or MtG or MTG
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Re: Green Champion Speed Challenge (F2P)

Postby sccook on Sat Jan 31, 2009 3:39 pm

Skips wrote:Are we allowed multiple submissions? And how do we do the abbreviations? Is it the two main letters? E.g, is Mind the Gap: MG or MtG or MTG


Why would you want multiple submissions? Each level will only have one fastest solution.

Use anything you want for the abbreviations...just be sure and start with the level number. I will sort the solutions in a spreadsheet by the the level number. The abbreviation is just an easy way to check to make sure that I have grouped all of the submissions together by the correct level.
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Re: Green Champion Speed Challenge (F2P)

Postby Skips on Sat Jan 31, 2009 4:29 pm

sccook wrote:
Skips wrote:Are we allowed multiple submissions? And how do we do the abbreviations? Is it the two main letters? E.g, is Mind the Gap: MG or MtG or MTG


Why would you want multiple submissions? Each level will only have one fastest solution.

Use anything you want for the abbreviations...just be sure and start with the level number. I will sort the solutions in a spreadsheet by the the level number. The abbreviation is just an easy way to check to make sure that I have grouped all of the submissions together by the correct level.


By multiple submissions I mean resend the list if you tweak some of them down, or just one send and then leave it.
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Re: Green Champion Speed Challenge (F2P)

Postby sccook on Sat Jan 31, 2009 4:34 pm

Sure...We're trying to get the fastest solutions. Just make sure that you tell me to replace your earlier submission.
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Re: Green Champion Speed Challenge (F2P)

Postby Skips on Sun Feb 01, 2009 9:47 am

With the submission format, is it okay that the URL doesn't work?
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Re: Green Champion Speed Challenge (F2P)

Postby sccook on Sun Feb 01, 2009 10:59 am

I intend to validate the fastest solution for each level and all of the solutions for the overall champion (which might just be between you and me). How do you expect to win the overall or a level award with an invalid URL?
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Re: Green Champion Speed Challenge (F2P)

Postby Skips on Sun Feb 01, 2009 11:08 am

No I mean that you can't click on it in the submission, because there isn't a space before it.
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Re: Green Champion Speed Challenge (F2P)

Postby sccook on Sun Feb 01, 2009 2:29 pm

That's fine. I only have to look at the winning URLs anyway.
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Re: Green Champion Speed Challenge (F2P)

Postby sccook on Fri Feb 13, 2009 1:39 pm

Congratulations to Skips who won with a total time of 1496 ticks (beating me by nearly 200 ticks). The second entry on this thread contains links to the fastest champion submitted for each of the free levels.
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Re: Green Champion Speed Challenge (F2P)

Postby Skips on Fri Feb 13, 2009 3:51 pm

To make the list more readable, I suggest putting the links afterward, otherwise it's hard to get an overview, also some tweaks:

Up the Hump: http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=6015384 56
Higher: http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=5916302 15
Down Under: http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=5937412 98
Full Up: http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=5929784 36
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Re: Green Champion Speed Challenge (F2P)

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Re: Green Champion Speed Challenge (F2P)

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Re: Green Champion Speed Challenge (F2P)

Postby th744 on Fri Feb 13, 2009 10:30 pm

Uturn down to 40! (1 better)
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