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Re: All water rods

Postby Rebach on Thu Oct 09, 2008 4:04 pm

jdelgado06 wrote:11Timmy in the Levels Solutions & Chat board posted an all water rod Unpossible
http://fantasticcontraption.com/?designId=2357293

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1655


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Re: All water rods

Postby EMDF on Fri Oct 10, 2008 11:00 am

I got whocares' creation for U-Turn down to 75 rods. It takes a long time to run (more than five minutes), but it works. If the one I modified wasn't a champion, then I'm not sure if this one is either (but since there is less weight, the long "pusher" rod won't get pulled out as much, and might stop before it comes out completely).

http://fantasticcontraption.com/?designId=2843674

Also, I'm working on a 4-piece champion for Reach Up. So far, I can get it to finish, but I can't get the one leg to swing out far enough to hold it steady. Maybe someone else can get it to work. link.

EDIT:
I watched the U-Turn contraption for five minutes after it finished, and it never left the goal area, so I continued to let it run. After an hour, I went back to it and it still hadn't left. It was in the same position that it was in after I stopped watching it. That means it's a champion.
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Re: All water rods

Postby rabid squirrel on Sat Oct 11, 2008 11:59 pm

Wow I thought this died. Well, time for updates!

Junkyard 55 piece - http://fantasticcontraption.com/?designId=2296333 - nauscopy
The Wall 51 piece - http://fantasticcontraption.com/?designId=2332133 - nauscopy
Mind the Gap :boomerang: Boomerang 10 piece - http://fantasticcontraption.com/?designId=2351710 - MrZNF
Unpossible ? piece - http://fantasticcontraption.com/?designId=2357293 - 11timmy
On A Roll :boomerang: Boomerang 4 piece - http://fantasticcontraption.com/?designId=2749156 - mtdewd

(and EMDF's tweak)

Some of those are insane, I never thought wall, junkyard, or unpossible would be possible blue.

so, what do we have left?

10. Up the Hump
12. Up the Stairs
13. Big Ball
16. Awash
18. Tube

They all seem possible (I say that because of the solutions I just saw) but insanely hard... maybe some kind of spring extender thing in tube would work? just thought of this attempt for a brown solution I saw a while ago:

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=100&p=4036#p4036

convertable somehow? maybe...
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Re: All water rods

Postby rabid squirrel on Sun Oct 26, 2008 1:14 pm

4 piece Reach Up Champ! (based on pantbash's brown champ 3 piece)
http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=3556413

it took a lot of tweaking to get it to stay in the goal perfectly :P

EDIT: and I tweaked MrZNF's 4 piece Brown Clean for Reach Up to get it blue and got it down to 3 pieces!!!
http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=3557793
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Re: All water rods

Postby Skips on Sun Oct 26, 2008 2:10 pm

I attempted to do Big Ball (how foolish of me), and the only way I could see it is to make a catapult. As we ALL know water catapults make no sense, but I actually got quite far. If you tweak it too much is stops working so i dunno, maybe somebody can tweak the distance.

Good luck!

http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=3558352

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Re: All water rods

Postby EMDF on Sun Oct 26, 2008 5:35 pm

rabid squirrel wrote:4 piece Reach Up Champ! (based on pantbash's brown champ 3 piece)
http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=3556413

it took a lot of tweaking to get it to stay in the goal perfectly :P

I knew it could be done. Great job on pulling it off!

EDIT:
Also, I came up with an idea on how to solve Four Balls with water rods only; use the two right balls to carry (or throw) the two left balls into the goal. I made a quick and dirty proof of concept contraption that uses two balls to carry the other two (with a water rod connecting them to each other). Link. So it is possible, but it's going to be hard as hell to make it work.

EDIT 2:
This contraption shows what I'm talking about a little better.
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Re: All water rods

Postby mtdewd on Sat Nov 08, 2008 11:27 am

The good news is that I cut Junkyard down from 55 to 5:
http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=4044676

(Over in the 'How Slow can you Go?' forum, we've discovered that just about anything can push those blocks if you wait long enough)


The bad news is it runs 227,946 ticks (more than 2 hours)


Edit: same thing only champion (and longer-321KT)
http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=4076725
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Re: All water rods

Postby Dummyisdumb on Sat Nov 08, 2008 12:30 pm

EMDF wrote:EDIT:
Also, I came up with an idea on how to solve Four Balls with water rods only; use the two right balls to carry (or throw) the two left balls into the goal. I made a quick and dirty proof of concept contraption that uses two balls to carry the other two (with a water rod connecting them to each other). Link. So it is possible, but it's going to be hard as hell to make it work.

EDIT 2:
This contraption shows what I'm talking about a little better.


I had that idea a long time ago, but I suck to much to try it.
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Re: All water rods

Postby rabid squirrel on Thu Nov 20, 2008 10:17 pm

I think 2hours is a bit much xD

that's pretty funny though.
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Re: All water rods

Postby munkeygy on Fri Nov 21, 2008 10:29 am

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Re: All water rods

Postby VERYDUMBNAME on Fri Nov 21, 2008 12:24 pm

you guys are really smart i just looked at all the levels too bad i dont have any but i noticed a couple are clean like m2m for example
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Re: All water rods

Postby EMDF on Fri Nov 21, 2008 2:33 pm

munkeygy wrote:http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=4389763 rolling away champion water

There's already a one piece champion for Rolling Away
rabid squirrel wrote:- Champion 1 piece - http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=1298746 - rabid squirrel
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Re: All water rods

Postby zeke_sox on Mon Nov 24, 2008 7:30 am

Perhaps for back and forth we should allow one unpowered ball to make it possible.
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Re: All water rods

Postby Dummyisdumb on Mon Nov 24, 2008 10:36 am

zeke_sox wrote:Perhaps for back and forth we should allow one unpowered ball to make it possible.

No.
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Re: All water rods

Postby EMDF on Mon Nov 24, 2008 3:06 pm

zeke_sox wrote:Perhaps for back and forth we should allow one unpowered ball to make it possible.

It is possible [prototype], but it's hard as hell to pull off, which is why no one's done it yet. The only reason the protype doesn't currently work is because the "basket" is rolling, making the front wheel push the top right wheel off of the basket itself (plus there's powered wheels and wooden rods, but that's not my point). The basket has to be some sort of slingshot for it to work.
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Re: All water rods

Postby jwhooper on Mon Nov 24, 2008 3:22 pm

It looks very possible, someone push this for me:

http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=4484548
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Re: All water rods

Postby Skips on Mon Nov 24, 2008 4:25 pm

EMDF wrote:
zeke_sox wrote:Perhaps for back and forth we should allow one unpowered ball to make it possible.

It is possible [prototype], but it's hard as hell to pull off, which is why no one's done it yet. The only reason the protype doesn't currently work is because the "basket" is rolling, making the front wheel push the top right wheel off of the basket itself (plus there's powered wheels and wooden rods, but that's not my point). The basket has to be some sort of slingshot for it to work.


It is theoretically possible to do Four Balls with only water rods, I foolishly started to:

http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=4142096

However, the level Back and Forth is impossible because you have no goal objects in the goal area, therefore nothing to pull the ball with.
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Re: All water rods

Postby Evil Dr. Phil on Mon Nov 24, 2008 6:08 pm

I really want this idea to work for up the stairs but I'm not sure if there is a better way to design something like this. I'd need more time to just sit down and plan it out.

Up the Stairs: Extendo-Arm

It doesn't even go halfway, maybe there's a better geometry for it, who knows?
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Re: All water rods

Postby EMDF on Mon Nov 24, 2008 8:34 pm

Skips wrote:It is theoretically possible to do Four Balls with only water rods, I foolishly started to:

http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=4142096
That's not foolish at all. In fact, that's exactly what I had in mind.
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Re: All water rods

Postby rabid squirrel on Wed Nov 26, 2008 6:34 pm

I never thought of that! I guess it is possible.

I worked on it a for a couple hours, and still nowhere close, haha. But it's getting there...

http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=4530496
http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=4530762
http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=4531301
And I made one like the last two except it got both balls, but it froze up when I tried to save >.<

Most of them are close to the max piece count before a black hole, so beware. :P

EDIT: updated the post starter with progress links and stuff like that.

also, 6 piece Boomerang for Rolling Away
http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=4466446

and I took some pieces off Junkyard (55 to 48) and the wall (51 to 45)

EDIT2:

I'm sure Tube Is possible via some ind of spring thingy... kind of like the idea for the stairs.
And Awash - using the balls would probably be a good idea....

Might we actually be able to get all these done? :aaaaa:
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