lords mazes (12?)

[jdccdj1]

this is about the best i could get with a pult attatched to the retriever: http://www.fantasticcontraption.com/?designId=11585232 ...in the end, i think a pult is gonna waste too many pieces, where as IGLima's wall climber (very nice, btw) will
most likely be the route to take....here is a modified retriever that allows more room at the left top of the work area and it's a little faster: http://www.fantasticcontraption.com/?designId=11585282

i must say, good job to all so far...we may conquer this level yet,

EDIT: here is another approach that can be scratched out: http://www.fantasticcontraption.com/?designId=11585482 (IGLima's wall climber is looking better all the time, lol)


EDIT #2: here are two other approaches (maybe?): http://www.fantasticcontraption.com/?designId=11585898 and http://www.fantasticcontraption.com/?designId=11586227 ...in the 1st one, i was thinking that the yellow wheel was gonna keep going, thus pull/push on various levers getting the ball basket to move up and left also...i don't have the vision yet to make it work and maybe one of you guys can do something with it...in the 2nd one, there's room for a wall climber and maybe can get the ball onto it from the rail rider, idk....i would continue, but i am headed back to Florida in a few minutes...

[Pawel.Anikiel]

http://www.fantasticcontraption.com/?designId=11586350
so i dont know how to continue from now maybe make the chain longer or something with the climber

[rianbay812...3]

brilliant idea!!
but we're gonna need more powa http://www.fantasticcontraption.com/?designId=11586362
actually once it gets to the top it stays there! http://www.fantasticcontraption.com/?designId=11586369

http://www.fantasticcontraption.com/?designId=11586394 DAMMIT

[Pawel.Anikiel]

http://www.fantasticcontraption.com/?designId=11586439
EVEN CLOSERRR! =O
OMG rainbay is speakin to me
i dont know how to feel...

[Pawel.Anikiel]

http://www.fantasticcontraption.com/?designId=11586487
now THAT is annoying

[rianbay812...2]

I feel amazing today.
http://www.fantasticcontraption.com/?designId=11586577 one way of getting the ball out
http://www.fantasticcontraption.com/?designId=11586588 other way

[Pawel.Anikiel]

rainbay, dont post things ive done
now we just post the solution OK?

[jdccdj1]

excellent work guys...i eliminated some pieces and moved some others around to make 2 contraptions so that it might be easier to tweak...idk, maybe something can be done with these:
http://www.fantasticcontraption.com/?designId=11586928 , http://www.fantasticcontraption.com/?designId=11586934

[ID36]

Yet another idea to join the others: http://www.fantasticcontraption.com/?designId=11587156
Same design split in half (idea from jdccdj) http://www.fantasticcontraption.com/?designId=11587176

[zhyrek]

Yet another idea to join the others: http://www.fantasticcontraption.com/?designId=11587156
Same design split in half (idea from jdccdj) http://www.fantasticcontraption.com/?designId=11587176

That climber's gonna need some extra oomph: http://www.fantasticcontraption.com/?designId=11587309

[jdccdj1]

looking good id36 and zhyrek, but i think we're gonna run outta pieces just getting the ball to the next section...i've been trying out an idea where i use a shorter rail rider and the climber helps turn the top left purple ball...it's not working according to plan, but here it is: http://www.fantasticcontraption.com/?designId=11587330 ....if can get it to work (or something similar) without adding more pieces, that'd be cool...right now the piece count stands at 37

[zhyrek]

here's the problem with that one jd, if the climber COULD climb at all, it would do it right away, without waiting for the ball. There's no reason why adding the EXTRA weight of the ball should make it climb better.

[Pawel.Anikiel]

the climber dosent do it cause its too heavy
we should remove some of its weight

[jdccdj1]

here's the problem with that one jd, if the climber COULD climb at all, it would do it right away, without waiting for the ball. There's no reason why adding the EXTRA weight of the ball should make it climb better.

hey zhyrek,

i didn't say anything about "EXTRA weight of the should make it climb better"...the goal ball just popped out...i was just trying to use the rail climber 's to help turn the wall(tube) climber ....anyway, getting the ball out of this work area is not the problem...the problem is doing it in, i'd say, 35 pieces or less....that's why i was trying this idea out...because if it worked, it would be in 37 pieces...i could easily do this in 70 or 80 pieces, but as you know, that wouldn't leave much for the other 2 work areas...i've got a few other ideas i am working on, but right now, my brain is mush...

-jdccdj

EDIT: kinda like this: http://www.fantasticcontraption.com/?designId=11587557 ...as you can see, everything is in the work area...after the rail climber grabs the goal ball, climbs the rail and is positioned next to the purple powered wheel, it(the rail climber) helps turn the purple powered wheel because the entire contraption goes up out of the work area a little bit...what i think needs to be done in order to save on pieces and therefore weight, is to have some sort of tube climber platform that is locked from going down and won't go up until the goal ball is aboard...and that, my friend, is what i was trying out with this design.

[rianbay812...2]

think...think...think....BRAIN BLAST! hold on lemme find the link

http://fantasticcontraption.com/?designId=8457645 Like this wallclimber thingy?? :O

[jdccdj1]

hey rianbay-

that's a very cool design you got there...shedding weight at a specified time so the tube climber can do useful work is the flip side of where i was going with that other design in that i was bringing more power into play at a specified time...either way will work...but first, check these out...i revisited the idea about pulting the goal ball over the wall and have actually gotten almost 3/4 of the way up in 27 pieces total....now, since you are damn good at brown designs, maybe you can find a better pult system...if not, we'll have to make a wall climber that will catch the ball on it's way up...
1. http://www.fantasticcontraption.com/?designId=11588411 (28 pieces)

2. http://www.fantasticcontraption.com/?designId=11588414 (30 pieces)

3. http://www.fantasticcontraption.com/?designId=11588493 (27 pieces)

4. http://www.fantasticcontraption.com/?designId=11588559 (26 pieces and i need longer toenails, lol)

- jdccdj

[rianbay812...2]

very impressive.

[schmittd]

this uses (im pretty sure) 39 pieces. it might be 38. anyways, it gets the ball to the next area! is it useable? or does it use too many pieces?
http://www.fantasticcontraption.com/?designId=11588720
btw, i give 99.9% credit of this to jdccdj

[IGLima]

Down to 31 pieces: http://www.fantasticcontraption.com/?designId=11588732

[jdccdj1]

YAY!....very nice schmittdd and iglima....my mind was tunnel-visioned trying to get the retriever/pult to work and i didn't think of DEFLECTION....AWESOME!!....i am still gonna work on it seperately in case we need those 5 extra pieces later on...now the fun stuff begins, haha